5 April

Krishnamurti In India: The Last Decade

The Last Talks

Madras 1985 / 1986 – 2nd  Public Talk

12    If one doesn’t see that as an actual fact then you are off the mark. Right? If you don’t see it as an actual fact that thought creates tremendous energy. You want to become a rich man, you work like blazes to get a rich man. Right? You want to do some kind of crazy propaganda and you work very hard, you join groups, sects, gurus and all the rest of that business. So thought is an extraordinary instrument of engendering thought. Right? Thought engendering energy. Right? Don’t agree.

13    So then we have to enquire into the very, very, very nature of thought. Right? Not say, well – all the excuses.

14    Don’t bother about this. I fell yesterday and hurt myself, that’s all, that is over. You can give your attention to something else.

15    So thought, which has planned this society, which has divided the world into Asia and Europe, the communist, the socialist, the capitalist, and the democratic republican – all that is created by thought. It is simple. The army, the navy, the airforce, to kill, not only for transportation but also to kill. This is obvious, isn’t it? So thought is very important in our life because without thought we can’t do anything. Right? For you to come here from a distance required planning, adjusting, taking a train, aeroplane, taking a bus, etc., etc., all that is part of your thinking. Right? So what is thinking? You work it out, don’t listen to me. What is thinking? You can’t live without a certain kind of thinking. Right? Planning, going back to your house, going back to do your work and so on, you are married, sex and… everything is contained in the process of thought. So what is thinking? The speaker has talked about it a lot, so don’t go back to his books. Don’t say, ‘Yes, I have heard that before’. But here you forget all the books, all the things you have read because we must approach this each time anew. So thinking is based on knowledge. Right? If you had no knowledge, how to come here, or take a bus or this or that, you wouldn’t be here. So knowledge, memory, thought. Right? And we have accumulated tremendous knowledge: how to sell each other, how to exploit each other, how to build bridges, how to create gods and temples – we have done all that. The various ashramas where they’re all… you know all that business – concentration camps of a certain kind. So thought has done all this. Created the army, the navy, the aeroplane. Thought has also, through knowledge, temples and all that business. So without experience there is no knowledge. Right? Be logical sirs. Logic is necessary up to a certain point. But if you start without logic, clarity then you can do… you become superstitious, imaginative, coming to conclusions, building temples and all that kind of nonsense.