10 March

Krishnamurti In India: The Last Decade

Rajghat 1985  – 3rd Public Talk

17    You know sirs, we are always fighting, from the beginning of time. You see this in various caves in France, and the Greek mythology, the good fighting the bad, all through life. Right? Do you understand what I am saying? The good fighting the bad. You see it in paintings as symbolised the good, as symbolised the Devil, or the something… In Greek mythology and other mythologies it is a bull against another – black bull against white bull – or the good fighting the evil in different shapes, symbols and so on, so on. We still do that, the good fighting the bad. Right? Don’t you do it? Is the good separate from the bad? The good guy and the bad guy. Is the good born out of the bad? Don’t look suddenly grave, sir – it’s all a game to you. If the good is related to the bad, then it’s not good. Right? If the good is born, comes from the bad, then it’s not good. That is simple, isn’t it? But if the bad is totally divorced from the good, there is no relationship between the good and the bad, they have no relationship with each other, then there is only the bad and the good. Totally divorced from each other, therefore they can’t fight.

18    So then we have to enquire, what is the good? Are you interested in all this? Therefore, you have to ask, can love contain hate? Or hate has nothing to do with love. Therefore there is no relationship between the two, therefore they can’t fight each other. You understand – this is an important question for you to understand, to delve, to go into it, because you are always saying, ‘I have been not good today, but I will be good tomorrow’. ‘I have been angry today, but I won’t be angry tomorrow’. This is the relative relationship between the good and the bad.

19    So love has nothing whatsoever to do with jealousy. Love has nothing whatsoever to do with hate. Where there is hate, pleasure, anxiety and so on, love cannot exist. Yes, sir. And the speaker questions whether you love anybody at all. And what is love? How does it come about? You understand my question? Don’t you ask that question? Do you really ask that question, or is it just I am asking it for you?

20    Q: The question is with us.

21    K: What question?

22    Q: Whether we love.

23    K: Yes. Whether you love. Can love exist where there is sorrow?