10 April

Krishnamurti In India: The Last Decade

The Last Talks

Madras 1985 / 1986 – 2nd  Public Talk

31    So there must be freedom from fear, from hurts, from every kind of thing human beings have put together. There must be freedom, you understand, not just words. ‘India must be free from the rest of the world’. That’s just nonsense. Nobody can live by themselves, they need a friend, they need somebody to help them.

32    So, we are trying to find out, enquire, into what is love. Right? We are saying, as long as there is fear of any kind – biologically, fear of attachment, fear of loss, fear of any kind, the other cannot exist. If there is any kind of attachment, the other cannot exist – the other being love. So we are going to inquire, if time allows. Then seeing all this, from the beginning, from the baby to the grown man, seeing what the world is, and inquiring into what is death. Why are we all so frightened of death? You understand? You know what it means to die? Haven’t you seen dozens of people killed, or hurt or… haven’t you? No? Are you strange people, or what? (Laughter) Belong to a different planet? We have seen death. We have never enquired very deeply into what is death. It is a very important question, as what is life. You understand? We said life is all this rot. We have said life is knowledge, learning – you know, all that stuff – going to the office regularly every day at 9 o’clock, or 10 o’clock, quarrelling, battling, wanting this and not wanting – you follow? We know what living is. Right? A series of actions produce a series of reactions and sorrow, pain – that is our life. Then if that is living – which it is, don’t say, ‘Yes, living is something extraordinary upstairs’, this is living – quarrelling, divorcing, fighting. But we have never enquired seriously into what is death. You understand what I am talking about? We know what is living, if you are honest, and you can imagine anything you like but this is living. You can imagine heaven is there and god sort of nod to you, every prayer is answered and all that rot. Except for me, for the speaker. But we have never seriously enquired into what is dying. All right sir?